Spanking

[TheRussian]

<Spike>Yeah, whatever. I don't really care.</Spike>

I knew what you were saying, but I was just helping you out with the "begging the question" thing. Sorry.

[drewcosten]

<Spike>Yeah, whatever. I don't really care.</Spike>

I knew what you were saying, but I was just helping you out with the "begging the question" thing. Sorry.

That's alright, I do appreciate the response, thanks. I think Anthony probably doesn't know just how undogmatic I try to be (even though I often fail).

[matt_the_cook]

I'd just like to point out, for posterity's sake.

This is a text-book example of "thread derailing". That is, a thread starting on one topic, and becoming about a totally unrelated topic.

Carry on.

[camac]

Well....let's make an effort to get it back on track then...

How many of you were spanked as a kid. I was.....oh I was alright

[matt_the_cook]

Well....let's make an effort to get it back on track then...

How many of you were spanked as a kid. I was.....oh I was alright

[Briana]

Perhaps it's just the punctuation, but I didn't really catch the idea here. How is my wife my sister and my children also sisters and brothers
Just want to make sure Mark doesn't think Christians think it's OK to marry siblings

Oops . Sorry. I fall into "christianese" so easily sometimes.

In the New King James chpt 4 verse 4-6 it says

There is one body, one Spirit, just as you were called in the hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptisim; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

So there is no differentiation of man and woman child or adult.

Sisters and Brothers

1 John 3:1

Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us because it did not know him.

Obviously as children of God, I would be your sister-you my brother, and the same for wives and husbands.


1 Pet 1:3-5 The inheritance

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope throught the ressurection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptable and undefiledand that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed int he last time.


We are all sisters and brothers also co-inheritors. Better?

[camac]

Thanks Briana. The issue I think Shawn was getting at is that Mark is not a believer. Take a sec and read through the "ID" section and you'll see that we've got everything from drug addicts to athiest to brethren church elders Fun group. However with such a wide cross-section of people viewing and posting it is imperative that we explain ourselves a bit more, and assume a little less about what folks understand.

Just pretend you are explaining things to your kids and you'll be fine

[Briana]

Okee dokee.

[Mark P]

I can only remember getting a spanking 2 or 3 times.

[Briana]

I tease my mother that she didn't spank me enough. Kinda serious though. I was a nightmare.

[Jenn]

I too was spanked as a child almost regularly every sunday after church. Our 'church' consisted of an elderly couple, Mom and Dad, and my brother and I. You can see how Martin(my bro) and I might get squirmish, so usally at some point I would get the look and I'd know at home...yup,... you know I think I cried more anticipating the spanking then actually getting it!

Here is an interesting question. What is obedience?

If I give my child three warnings before disciplining him has he really obeyed?
Would obedience not be an immediate response to my request?

Anne-Marie come here please. Yes mom.


NOT
Anne-Marie come here please. Anne-Marie... ...mommy said.......Anne...1...-2....-3!

Should we demand immediate obedience from our children?

If not is it truely obedience?

[Briana]

Depends on the child. My son had a learning disability and I must remind him often. I really don't sweat the small stuff. I try and see where their heart lies and try to feel if they have a rebellious heart. My children are very obediant but think that is because most of the time I correct their heart with words.

[camac]

Here is a pamphlet I saw today:

SPANKING: It hurts more than you think

Spanking is hitting. Spanking is meant to cause pain to control a child's behaviour. When you're stressed and angry, spanking may seem like a quick way to stop misbehavior - but it doesn't work.

http://www.parenthelpline.ca

Parents? Your thoughts?

[drewcosten]

Here is a pamphlet I saw today:

SPANKING: It hurts more than you think

Spanking is hitting. Spanking is meant to cause pain to control a child's behaviour. When you're stressed and angry, spanking may seem like a quick way to stop misbehavior - but it doesn't work.

http://www.parenthelpline.ca

Parents? Your thoughts?

It depends on what you're trying to accomplish by spanking. I'm not a parent, but I will say that based on my experience getting spanked (a lot) I don't think it works. Sure, it stopped me from outwardly disobeying (or at least taught me how to keep my disobedience a lot more secret), but it's not like the spanking stopped me from wanting to do things or being upset at my parents for keeping me from doing certain things (keep in mind, though, that I was punished for ridiculous things like trying to listen to evil music like The Beach Boys or watch fictional shows on TV, to name just a couple reasons). So if you're trying to adjust your kids attitudes it won't work (unless they're very weak willed, and that's just trouble waiting to happen if they are), even though you might end up with more outwardly obedient kids. On the other hand, it might keep them from playing in the street and getting run over. Now that I think about it, I guess my issue is more about the reasons for punishment then it is the punishment itself. No, I'm not bitter.

[Peter_W]

I was never spanked as a child, although my older Sister and brother were. I was well behaved (in comparison).

But did spank some females in the past... er... but I won't go there!


Personally, I don't think it (spanking as a means of discipline) works in the long run. All you end up doing is breeding fear and resentment in the child.


Although in my uncharitable moments (around unruly children), I have often wished for "stun collars" around the brats...and I had the remote!.... LAUGH



Have a good day,


Peter