The Apostolic Era

[anne]

"This must not go any further" does this mean "this is a confidential matter" or "this is bad and no one must find out about it"

There must be confidential matters in any group of people.

It would be good if this was clarified.
Also I wonder why Verity, both yourself and your husband chose to refrain from taking the bread and wine for a full year. Did you come from another assembly? or did you come from another denomination? or forgive me if you have recently come to know the Lord which I didn't think you had as you did comment you had looked into universalism whilst studying and also mentioned your husband was an able speaker, therefore I surmise you are mature Christians.
It seems strange that you would just sit for 1 year not being able to take part in the assembly.

[Verity]

Also I wonder why Verity, both yourself and your husband chose to refrain from taking the bread and wine for a full year.

Dear Anne,

At no time during my postings have I ever said "that I have refrained from taking the bread and wine for a full year."


Wherever have you got that idea from?


Verity

[Verity]

and also mentioned your husband was an able speaker

Dear Anne,

At no time during my postings have I ever said "that my husband was an able speaker."


Please read again in the singular posting, as to what I did actually write and say.


Verity

[Verity]

It seems strange that you would just sit for 1 year not being able to take part in the assembly.

Dear Anne,

At no time in my postings have I ever said "we have just sat for 1 year not being able to take part in the assembly."


Wherever have you got that idea from?


Verity

[anne]

Also I wonder why Verity, both yourself and your husband chose to refrain from taking the bread and wine for a full year.

Dear Anne,

At no time during my postings have I ever said "that I have refrained from taking the bread and wine for a full year."


Wherever have you got that idea from?


Verity

I'm sorry if i got you wrong Verity, it was the fact that you said

I have attended (not joined) 2 Brethren assemblies within the last three years; firstly, an Open Chapel; latterly, Gospel Hall, and of which, sadly, abusiveness has and does occur, in both.

Hence, recent extensive research into the Brethren Movement, and, in addition, reading books of testimony to abusiveness rendered by both exclusive and (inclusive) open brethren assemblies - halls, chapels etc.

Presently, attending a gospel hall assembly and shall not proceed any further with regard to "joining" thereof.

It is a long time three years, or did you just pay odd visits Verity, usually to be able to partake of the Lords supper or to 'join' (for want of a better word) you need a letter of commendation

At no time during my postings have I ever said "that my husband was an able speaker."

Please read again in the singular posting, as to what I did actually write and say.

And i'm sorry if I picked you up wrong here to

Not that my husband is a better speaker, rather, that he has studied and shown himself approved according to the word of God.

[Verity]

Dear Anne,

Indeed, you have wrongly assumed much and/or mis-perceived, as highlighted.

Also I wonder why Verity, both yourself and your husband chose to refrain from taking the bread and wine for a full year.

How on earth you managed to come up with that one, baffles me.


Apology accepted.


Yours in Love & Truth,

Verity

[anne]

I would be happy if you would clarify if you had a letter of commendation or was the hall/s/chapels you attended in the 3 years quite free and open regarding the bread and wine? I would be very surprised if they did allow communion without 'joining (for want of a better word)

[Verity]

To be honest, Anne

I don't think I could ever possibly open up to you, evidently you can't help but "add to" whatever is written or said.


Are you a "controller" ?


In Love & Truth,

Verity


PS. Notably, you have added the second sentence during the time in which I posted this.

[anne]

I think to be quite honest Verity i asked a simple and honest question.
The brethren assemblies are known for their lack of cooperation to people who do not give a letter of commendation or as you put it ''we did not join'' if you did not 'join' then you would be refused the bread and wine' simple as that.
As you imply you went to a few assemblies and did not join, did this mean you were refused the Lords table, I hope I have clarified my question which was given with sincerity.
Anne

[Verity]

To be honest Anne,


Do you run the Brethren assembly et al ?

Why are you so "controllingly" concerned?


Why did you write, create, and post, "false accusations" about me? I never ever posted anything in my posts of which you have posted about me!!


Please stand back and "see"


Yours in Love & Truth,

Verity

[Verity]

I am walking away from this table, and going to pray about ALL of this.


In Love & Truth,


Verity

[jtheb]

I am confused by this series of postings.

I had also misunderstood your postings. On the other hand I have several times taken Bread and Wine in a PB assembly without a letter of commendation.
At one I was actually told that I was free to give a message if I felt led! (this is exceptional).

[anne]

Verity,i'm sorry but you seem to be getting upset and I certainly did not want that for one minute, but you have openly abused the Brethren Church and have been quite forthcoming about it. I take offence at that because i know MANY who are good upstanding Christians and I feel you need to take a step back and think about your position here and why you are posting as you are.
Am I a controller? God forbid, but I do not like to see another Christian categorize a church and the people in it (PB that is part of the body of Christ)

Hence, recent extensive research into the Brethren Movement, and, in addition, reading books of testimony to abusiveness rendered by both exclusive and (inclusive) open brethren assemblies - halls, chapels etc.

I would say as Christians we have to be very careful how we judge others.
Also the fact that one has the boldness to accuse others openly on the WWW yet at the same time hides all the facts of oneself I find that strange and ominous.

Do you run the Brethren assembly et al ?

Why are you so "controllingly" concerned?

It would be a funny day if a woman ran the PB
I am more saddened than anything.

[Verity]

I am confused by this series of postings.

I had also misunderstood your postings. On the other hand I have several times taken Bread and Wine in a PB assembly without a letter of commendation.
At one I was actually told that I was free to give a message if I felt led! (this is exceptional).

Big difference between plain misunderstanding and creating "false accusations"!!


Yes, jtheb, we also have taken Bread and Wine throughout, and both assemblies have asked us to "join" them, in fact, they have expressed that they wish us to do so.

As for letter of commendation, no mention, maybe because they know us to be of "good report."

Without shouting from the rooftops as to what we do within our community.


However, the abusiveness is most saddening and somewhat of a real concern.


Any form of abusiveness ought to be a concern, to themselves and for others too.

In Love & Truth,

Verity

[anne]

I'm sorry, but the assemblies that I know of (in Scotland and there are many) you need a letter of commendation, sorry if there has been a miss understanding